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SPACE Digest                                     Volume 11 : Issue 529

Today's Topics:
 Re: Color fotos/slides of galaxies NGC 4565, NGC 4594, and NGC 5128
               Re: Mount Graham
              Re: NASA 91 Appropriation
    Funding approved to widen Kennedy Parkway (Forwarded)
              Re:  SPACE Digest V11 #518
             Re: Weather Satellite Photos
               Old SPACE Digest
             Re: Weather Satellite Photos
Re: Making fresh vegetables on long-duration space travel (Forwarded)
Re: Public Perception Of Space (was Re: US/Soviet Planetary Activity)
          Re: NASA Data access on Internet?
   Color fotos/slides of galaxies NGC 4565, NGC 4594, and NGC 5128
             VOYAGER information required

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Date: 15 Jun 90 17:33:38 GMT
From: hplabsb![e-mail]  (David Smith)
Subject: Re: Color fotos/slides of galaxies NGC 4565, NGC 4594, and NGC 5128

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>Where, please, can I acquire or at least just *see* color photos (prints) or
>color slides of NGC 4565, NGC 4594 and NGC 5128??

Try the Field Guide to the Stars and Planets, in the Peterson series.

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Date: 14 Jun 90 14:44:48 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali.cs.montana.edu!rpi!uupsi!pbs![e-mail]
Subject: Re: Mount Graham

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John Shipman) writes:
> Why do these observatories have to be built on Mt. Graham?
> Is this the only decent telescope site left in North
> America?
>
> I can think of at least two alternatives: the Sacramento
> range, near Cloudcroft, NM; and the Magdalena range, near
> Socorro, NM.  Both sites came off very well in site surveys
> (DELETED)
Don't forget the host institution for this project is the University of ARIZONA
not New Mexico State.  I am not sure the Arizona state legislature would fund a
telescope observatory elsewhere and do not know that the state of New Mexico is
willing to take up the tab.
>
> I am both an astronomer and a naturalist.  The reason I am
> on the side of the squirrels in the Mount Graham controversy
> is very simple.  You can put telescopes in lots of places,
> but extinction is forever.
> --
Nothing posted so far has proven the telescopes will cause the extinction of
those squirrels.  In fact, by locking in now low level development for
that site (as opposed to a condo project, for example) the telescopes may
actually be the squirrels salvation in the long run.

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Date: 15 Jun 90 12:05:34 GMT
From: linus!mwunix.mitre.org![e-mail]  (Stephen Okay)
Subject: Re: NASA 91 Appropriation

[e-mail] (Allen W. Sherzer) writes:

>I just received a copy of the markup for the NASA 91 appropriation. This
>is out of the subcommittee on VA, HUD, and Independent Agencies. In a
>nutshell, anything related to Moon Mars is gone. Anything related to
>Mission to Planet Earth just got a whole lot bigger.
>Overall, the NASA R&D request of 7,074,000,000 was cut by 615,375,000.
Truly sad....truly sad....but then again, we have no one to blame but our
selves as a nation, giving us one more thing to explain to our children...

-----------------------
Stephen Okay       Technical Aide, The MITRE Corporation
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Date: 14 Jun 90 20:37:03 GMT
From: trident.arc.nasa.gov![e-mail]  (Peter E. Yee)
Subject: Funding approved to widen Kennedy Parkway (Forwarded)

[Impressive, isn't it? -PEY]

          Bruce Buckingham
          407/867-2468                                      June 14, 1990

          KSC RELEASE NO. 106 - 90


                      FUNDING APPROVED TO WIDEN KENNEDY PARKWAY


               Funding to widen State Road 3, one of Kennedy Space Center's
          busiest highways, was given final Congressional approval
          recently, paving the way for long awaited relief of severe
          traffic congestion during rush hours.

               Construction to widen from two to four lanes the 2.5 mile
          extension of State Road 3 (Kennedy Parkway) north of KSC's Gate 2
          is scheduled to begin by the end of the current calendar year.
          Work should be completed by late summer of 1991. The road work
          will complement Brevard County's plans to double the width of an
          eight mile, two-lane stretch of Route 3 between the Merritt
          Island Barge Canal bridge and Gate 2 on the south end of KSC. The
          county's construction work should be completed by mid-summer next
          year.

               An average of 3-4,000 cars leave KSC daily via State Road 3.
          As commuters travel south, past KSC's 5th street on the south end
          of the Industrial Area, they merge from four lanes to two. At
          that location, traffic frequently bottlenecks, creating long
          delays and slow-moving lines of single file traffic.

               "Widening this stretch of Route 3 will allow travelers going
          to and from KSC greater safety and less time spent in long lines
          of slow moving traffic," said Gary Ray, NASA Project Manager for
          Institutional Projects. "Eliminating the bottleneck will assist
          in dispersing congestion and facilitate the orderly movement of
          commuters," he said.

               Funding for construction was made available when the U.S.
          House of Representative Science Committee approved the transfer
          of $3.2 million from other facility improvements undertaken by
          NASA.

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From: [e-mail]
Date:     Fri, 15 Jun 90  08:44:36 EDT
Subject:  Re:  SPACE Digest V11 #518

> ------------------------------
>
> Date: 11 Jun 90 16:55:49 GMT
> From: mcgill-vision!quiche!calvin![e-mail]  (Mark SOKOLOWSKI)
> Subject: Re: Lichens on Mars?
>
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve
>  Rehrauer) writes:
> >
> >Ah, no.  Lichens would not grow under the conditions that various space
> >probes have shown us to (actually) exist on Mars, but that was back before
> >Dan Quayle revealed how habitable the planet wishfully is.
> >
> In fact, some alguaes and some worms can very well live on VEEEENNNUUUSSSS!!!
> Venus is certainly not the hostile hell our current mediatic propaganda
> and the mars/moon missions lobbyists are portraying!
>
> Mark S.
> -------
>
If you really believe your last comment regarding the conditions on
the planet Venus, then you are a true follower of the Dan Quayle
School of Science (as taught in Latin by the Latin Americans).

God help you.

                                               D. Valpar
                                               AZM@NIHCU

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Date: 15 Jun 90 15:03:22 GMT
From: mojo![e-mail]  (Doug Mohney)
Subject: Re: Weather Satellite Photos

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Milo S. Medin) writes:
>
>One of the problems is that if we make such information available
>as fast as the computers process the image data, that we'll be swamped
>with FTP's, and suck up all the bandwidth the net can deliver.  So we'll
>probably limit this to one image a day or such.  Any thoughts on how
>to do this properly would be appreciated.

Try to get in on the big NSF project for a "data superhighway" and set up
satellite sites in different regions of the country. Ship the images
via NSF-superNet, and the rest of the low-speed world can pick them off
the satellites as they come in.

Does NASA have a clearing house for all this information, aside from sci.space?
Maybe some of the Space Grant institutes could set up regional FTP sites.
I dunno..

            shooting from the hip,
                    doug

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Date:          15-JUN-90 10:30:00 EDT
From: Steven R. Heleski <[e-mail]>
Subject:       Old SPACE Digest

   Is there a FTP site or BITNET Listserve Site that I  can
   get old copies of SPACE Digest?


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Date: 15 Jun 90 01:12:26 GMT
From: cincsac.arc.nasa.gov![e-mail]  (Milo S. Medin)
Subject: Re: Weather Satellite Photos

We are in the process of working with NOAA to make available for
anonymous FTP regular GOES weather images.  We do have connections
to the NOAA facilities where such data is available, and have some folks
who are willing to volunteer writing conversion software from the NOAA
format into X11 bitmaps.

We hope to automate this so that as soon as an image is processed,
it will be made available for FTP from a well connected NASA
facility in a timely way.  We'll post more information when this
is ready for use.

One of the problems is that if we make such information available
as fast as the computers process the image data, that we'll be swamped
with FTP's, and suck up all the bandwidth the net can deliver.  So we'll
probably limit this to one image a day or such.  Any thoughts on how
to do this properly would be appreciated.

                        Thanks,
                             Milo

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Date: 15 Jun 90 07:14:00 GMT
From: bfmny0![e-mail]  (Tom Neff)
Subject: Re: Making fresh vegetables on long-duration space travel (Forwarded)

>     Kliss hopes to have the salad machine fully operational by
>Space Station Freedom's scheduled completion later this decade.

Salad days indeed for NASA!

Poor Paula.  Next week she'll probably have to issue something called

>DRESSING FOR SPACE

--
'We have luck only with women -- not spacecraft!'     \\  Tom Neff
 -- R. Kremnev, builder of failed Soviet FOBOS probes //  [e-mail]

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Date: 14 Jun 90 19:11:15 GMT
From: ceshome![e-mail]  (Craig E. Smith)
Subject: Re: Public Perception Of Space (was Re: US/Soviet Planetary Activity)

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve Rehrauer) writes:
>I hope I'm slightly more informed than Joe U.S. Average about space issues,
>if only because I read this group (half smile).  Yet, I can't say I think
>"Bush's moon program" is particularly smart, not because I think a place
>isn't worth going to unless it has cable TV and an indoor pool, but because
>I don't get warm fuzzies that it's anything other than an expensive,
>ill(nill?)-planned political stunt.  It strikes me as another "Read My Lips",
>with everyone waiting for the punchline.


    I don't know how well planned it may be, but there are very
good reasons for going back to the moon, and building a permanent base
there. The difference in gravity between the earth and the moon, makes
it much cheaper to land and re-launch spacecraft from the moon than from
the surface of the earth once a fuel supply is established. Another
economic advantage of a moon base is that many necessary raw materials
may be found and mined from the moon thus eliminating the expense of
launching them from earth, and solar energy can be more effectively
collected and used since the energy is not attenuated by a thick atmosphere.
A base on the moon would also offer a big advantage for reasearchers as a
much better location to directly view the universe as there is very little
atmosphere there to distort telescopic images. A space station has some
of these advantages, but with only a space station all raw materials
will have to be brought up from the earth at great expense as they are
needed.

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Date: 14 Jun 90 21:23:21 GMT
From: uvaarpa!murdoch!astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU![e-mail]  (Greg S. Hennessy)
Subject: Re: NASA Data access on Internet?

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Thomas F. Smith) writes:
#In the article it says "...anyone with access to the Internet,
#BITNET, or Telenet computer network can call NSSDC computers
#arount the clock.

#Anybody willing to provide the info?

> ftp nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov
Connected to nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov.
220 NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV MultiNet FTP Server Process 2.1(8) at Thu 14-Jun-90 5:17PM-EDT
Name (nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov:gsh7w): anonymous
331 anonymous user ok. Send real ident as password.
Password:gsh7w

230-Guest User GSH7W logged into DECNET_DIR:[ANONYMOUS] at Thu 14-Jun-90 17:17, job 20c01169.
230 Directory and access restrictions apply
ftp> dir
200 Port 19.45 at Host 128.143.20.20 accepted.
150 List started.

DECNET_DIR:[ANONYMOUS]

ADC.DIR;1                   1  13-MAR-1990 18:55 ADC_ANON (RWE,R,R,R)
ASTRO-1.DIR;1               1  13-MAR-1990 18:55 ASTRO_ANON (RWE,R,R,R)
FORMS.DIR;1                 1  16-MAY-1990 09:31 FORMS_ANON (RWE,R,R,R)
IUE.DIR;1                   3  19-MAR-1990 14:44 IUE_ANON (RWE,R,R,R)
PUBLIC.DIR;1                1  30-MAR-1990 10:15 PUBLIC_ANON (RWE,R,R,R)
TOOLKIT.BCK;32767        5292  22-DEC-1989 11:32 [SYSTEM] (RWED,RWED,RE,RE)


Total of 5299 blocks in 6 files.
226 Transfer completed.
505 bytes received in 1.7 seconds (.3 Kbytes/s)

ftp> quit
221 QUIT command received. Goodbye.
> exit
>
Process shell finished
--
-Greg Hennessy, University of Virginia
 USPS Mail:     Astronomy Department, Charlottesville, VA 22903-2475 USA
 Internet:      [e-mail]
 UUCP:        ...!uunet!virginia!gsh7w

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Date: 14 Jun 90 17:53:13 GMT
From: psuvm![e-mail]
Subject: Color fotos/slides of galaxies NGC 4565, NGC 4594, and NGC 5128

Where, please, can I acquire or at least just *see* color photos (prints) or
color slides of NGC 4565, NGC 4594 and NGC 5128??

Thanks much!

Carey

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Date: 15 Jun 90 01:50:37 GMT
From: zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!munnari.oz.au!metro!grivel!gara![e-mail]  ( STUG)
Subject: VOYAGER information required


    I am looking for information aquired during the VOYAGER missions concerning:-                                                                                      1/ size and distribution of particles within the asteroid belt,                 2/ the outer moons of Jupiter (e.g Leda,Himalia etc)                            3/ planetary ring structures (particle size, distribution and composition                                                                                    I would be most greatfull t






o anyone who can supply me with any information    on these themes.Thanks in advance,                                                                               Tim

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